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the marquis de Carabas ([personal profile] mattersverymuch) wrote2013-08-02 12:18 pm

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spam } victor creed

[There isn't any point in waiting. The marquis wants to start this now. In part because he trusts Iris's judgment, in part because she's right, he's bored, in part because he'd like to see if he can warp a monster into a different kind of monster even in this place with all of its bizarre checks and balances.]

[He follows Victor starting shortly after lunch, watching his path out of the cafeteria carefully. He knows Victor's habits; he knows most people's. And while he starts out following at a distance, he gradually decreases subtlety until he is abruptly waiting for Victor by the door to the CES. Just watching.]


private/video } dean winchester

[The decision is made abruptly. Succinctly. Like a light turning on, or off, or the breaking of a bone.]

[He sits on a flat stone step in his room, or what passes as his room; he sits on it like it's a throne, and he smiles for the camera.]


Have you ever heard the story of Puss in Boots?
lawofthejungle: ([comics]: clean up aisle five)

[personal profile] lawofthejungle 2013-08-02 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
[Victor notices he's got a tail before he makes himself known; the same scent trails after him all afternoon, there's no chance he's not going to connect the dots. But he lets him follow, doesn't give the game away, right up until he intercepts. He raises an eyebrow and crosses his arms over his chest and just looks at him with a combination of amusement and curiosity. A deep sniff verifies what he'd already suspected.]

Started wonderin' when ya were gonna poke yer head out.
lawofthejungle: ([comics]: you sure you wanna do that?)

[personal profile] lawofthejungle 2013-08-02 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
[His gaze is easy but intent; he watches the smaller man, taking his measure, but never drops it. The age-old game of "who's the boss"; Creed's used to being top dog, to the rest of the rabble falling in line. It's important to establish pecking order early, instinct in his case. He can tell the smaller man is a predator too, even if he doesn't seem so obvious about it. It's why he grins back, all teeth.]

More important question's why I'm so interesting.
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[personal profile] lawofthejungle 2013-08-02 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
But it's fun watchin' 'em squirm when they figure it out, why change it?

[Not that Iris has. Yet. He is reasonably sure she will reach that point sooner or later; they all do. All have that point where it goes too far, it's just a matter of finding it. Finding the right button, the right time to push it to make your point clear.]

No such thing as honest interest anyway, an' if you claim that's what you've got right now you better rethink your next words.
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[personal profile] lawofthejungle 2013-08-03 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
[It gains a chuckle in kind, a rumbling kind of sound that generally doesn't bode well, but he's amused enough. For now.]

Interested enough to either think I'm stupid enough not to pick up on ya followin' me or to hope I would.

Most people that brand of fool end up havin' a proposition.
lawofthejungle: ([comics]: I'm waiting)

[personal profile] lawofthejungle 2013-08-03 01:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I doubt it.

[And that's all arrogance, arrogance backed up by over a century of proof -- no-one has ever presented anything worth learning, not even when backed up by a smile like that, no matter how many teeth he shows, because Victor is a creature of instinct, not learning, not when every lesson he's ever received was in the cruelty inherent in mankind -- but arrogance nonetheless.]

Unless yer talkin' about the color of yer insides.

Try again if ya don't want t'explore that right now.

[There's the hint of a growl underneath, a warning. Wrong answer, try again, but you only get one more shot.]
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[personal profile] lawofthejungle 2013-08-03 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
[Well that drags him up short. He'd only showed his teeth as encouragement anyway, to hurry the conversation along to whatever point the frail was trying to make; with it within grasp his posture's still thoroughly dominant, teeth bared and eyes narrowed as he weighs it. Thinking, calculating, animal cunning at work but no less intelligent for it. Despite appearances, despite the image he goes out of his way to perpetuate, Creed isn't a stupid man, far from it even if he operates on a different level than most, but it's potentially problematic if the frail spots it.

The fact that the other man's spotted his interest is less concerning. Spend enough time lingering around a place you obviously can't get into and it becomes pretty damn clear eventually.]


What makes you think that wasn't the point?

[It wasn't. But there's nothing to be gained in admitting as much.]

What kinda history?

[He wouldn't be volunteering it if they were entirely allies, that's far too obvious.]
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[personal profile] lawofthejungle 2013-08-05 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
[Hackle raise at the statement; if he admits it to himself, that's exactly what he was. Running scared, the predator that finally ran up against one he couldn't take down, could never take down. Will never be able to take down, because how can you hope to fight something so much older than you are, something born deep in the world's history that has easily spent thousands of years surviving. Something that spent years pulling just the right strings, twisting just the right knives, applying just the right leverage to advance things to one particular point in time. One eventuality. He was never supposed to win. It was always the runt, the bastard had never been unclear on that point. And he'd fought it as long as he could because he'd never been good at accepting defeats he had no say in, but then he'd had it all torn away from him and he still couldn't say why. Because he hadn't rolled over like he was supposed to, because he refused to accept his fate, maybe he'd just happened to catch him on the wrong day but Creed doesn't like not being in control.

Quod eris sum.

Of course he'd been running scared. Anybody would in his position. Nobody likes to be confronted with the fact that they've ultimately got no control over anything. That they're just sliding down a slippery slope they couldn't have hoped to to stop in the first place. One you can see just over the horizon, one that creeps closer every day if you don't keep an eye on it.

One that looks an awful lot like a tiger being put down after it's got the taste for human flesh in its mouth.

But he's too stubborn to ever admit it out loud, and it does him no good tactically to do so; he'd been desperate when he'd let the runt in on the real way of the world for their kind. He's not that desperate now. Not with Romulus who the fuck knew how far away.

For now he only grins wider, at once teasing and challenging, his response a lazy drawl when it comes. As if the news amuses him more than it irritates. Honestly curious, because it's a thread he'll have to tie up, but he has his suspicions. There's one who knows, unequivocally. Would know. Might have spread the information if she thought it necessary, but even so it's a loose end. He doesn't like loose ends, they have a tendency of biting you in the ass later. So he tilts his head in question but doesn't give away that he might know, or at least not in any way that most might pick up on.]


That right. An' where'd you hear that from?

[The wolf could have known. Probably would have smelled it. Iris knows for sure, she'd said as much already.]

I'll grant you I wasn't at my best. Doubt anybody is their first day here.

[He files the nature of his relationship with Iris away for a moment. Think on it for a bit.]
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[personal profile] lawofthejungle 2013-08-12 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
An' what kinda somethin' would I have to give t'get that kinda information?

[He wouldn't have believed it anyway; Creed's universe is composed of him and everyone else. He is superior. His worst day is still better than everyone else's. He is unbeatable unless he allows it. Cannot be bested honestly more than once. It is a lesson learned and the future will be better. It will not happen again. He can afford to admit the fleeting lapse.

His words now are lazy, measured and unconcerned. He is curious, but not enough that he will lose any sleep over not having the answer. He has his own ways of finding out.]
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[personal profile] lawofthejungle 2013-08-19 10:44 am (UTC)(link)
[Torture only works reliably on a certain group, Victor has discovered in his long and illustrious and blood-steeped history. Those too scared to lie well, those already inclined to betray or tell the truth out of fear. The weak in the herd. With a little pressure, a little encouragement, they sing like nightingales, answer every question you ask with fear in their eyes and desperation in their souls, as if they'll be released from the cage in the end, as if their loved ones will be spared, so long as they answer. Sometimes the answers are even the right ones, or answer questions you hadn't asked yet. They are useful, and entertaining, and provide him the screams and fear he thrives on, but ultimately hollow and cheap because they get there far too quickly.

But those with too much conscience, or too little, those for whom physical pain is nothing more than a fleeting inconvenience, who have dissociated themselves from the emotional ties the rest of the herd clings so tightly to, these individuals will never respond well to it. Some of them scream and cry and piss themselves anyway, much to Creed's continued entertainment, but they do not speak.

He thinks the Marquis may be one of the latter. Not that he won't squirm and scream like the rest, but he won't talk. Won't ever give a straight answer no matter what you do.

It's not necessarily a bad thing. There are ways of getting them to talk too.

The lazy drawl continues, stretching out across the space with the practiced ease of someone intentionally painting a disinterested picture. A cat turning its nose up at the food dish or a friendly hand because it can. To prove that everything is at its discretion.]


Maybe I do, maybe I don't. Been around for a long, long year, as the song goes. Be a disappointment if I didn't pick up a few things along the way. You tell me what kinda favor you need, we'll see if we can't work somethin' out.
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[personal profile] surfaceshine 2013-08-03 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
[Dean is wasting time in his office on the seventh floor, tilted all the way back in his chair and throwing pencils at the ceiling to see if he can get them to stick when the message comes in. He listens to it without activating his own side of the feed, because for all that he likes to jump in with both feet, even he's not stupid enough to jump into shark-infested waters for no reason without reconnaissance.

It seems like a throwaway joke. But the Marquis doesn't do throwaway anything. Dean sits silent and still, his latest pencil still wound back in his hand and ready to toss at the lead-pocked ceiling panel, considering. Finally he sits forward in the chair and clicks the video on, eyebrows raised.
]

Not the PG version. What's up?
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[personal profile] surfaceshine 2013-08-04 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
[Dean is fully aware of the nature of fairy tales, and how things being made up doesn't stop them from doing a number on the unwary. Apparently, sometimes the impossible doesn't give much weight to the fact that it can't exist.

At first, the surrealness of it all is almost too much for the hunter, the Marquis telling him a fairytale, and he's about to ask if something is wrong, trying to figure out if he can surreptitiously check the network for a flood or something without interrupting or giving himself away. He feels alright for himself, but then he usually does, for a given value of alright. More alright right now than in a while, certainly.

That lasts until the Marquis gets to the first mention of de Carabas, and Dean almost misses it. He doesn't even hesitate, doesn't hitch or emphasize, just throws it out there, casual, like a discarded glove; Dean visibly comes to attention, sitting up straight in his chair, tilting his head and not interrupting.

He doesn't even think about interrupting despite his habit for doing so. He's collecting the bits and pieces as best he can, trying to read between the lines and not sure what it means that he almost can't. The Marquis keeps flashing smiles and little side comments but Dean knows that dance, he knows to ignore the bells and the whistles without ignoring them at all; he knows how often the most glaring issues is the one with the brightest bauble tied to it, laid out in plain sight.

There is no moral. What was good for him. Clothes make the man. The Marquis who does not exist and the miller's son who does not matter. Dean picks his way through all of it, not minding that the bare, functional cogs and gears of his own personality that he normally keeps hidden beneath brass and varnish are laid out and plain; the Marquis already knows. Dean is convinced that's at least part of what this is, but he doesn't know what the other part is.

He does know two things: one, he's on uneven ground here, lost among metaphor and literary contrivance. Two, he wonders who this is costing more, and where their ledger will be at the end of it, if the meter is running and which way it's turning. He has no patience for either of these things.

So the teasing cockiness is at an ebb for the moment, dark hazelgreen eyes serious below bemused eyebrows, his mouth a crooked line of consideration.
]

That's an awful lot of talking without a point about a guy who, in the end, doesn't exist and doesn't matter.

[Dean believes none of these things and has no thought to hide it.]
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[personal profile] surfaceshine 2013-08-05 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
[The question isn't whether this was right or wrong; Dean already knows what the Marquis has clearly - which is part of the problem, isn't it, how clear this all seems - come to decide for himself, that he's good for it, whatever this is. Dean is a liar and he's trustworthy, as sturdy and loyal as they come, inherently, terminally so. Of course he sees, and furthermore, he's paying attention and has been for a while now.

He raises an eyebrow.
]

And I think the miller's son matters. I think he matters very much. And I think the Marquis exists. I think one couldn't have been without the other.

And I think he's always exactly who and what he needs to be.

[The question isn't whether this was right or not. The question is, what is the goal?.]

And I think you're having to chase mice to survive, again.
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[personal profile] surfaceshine 2013-08-05 06:39 am (UTC)(link)
[It's only the briefest fraction of a second, but it's veritably glaring in the face of the Marquis' smooth, bulletproof smile before and after. A perfectly calm pool, stirred by the near passing of a fin just below the gleaming surface, that much more pronounced for what it isn't as much as what it is.

Dean shakes his head, unfazed by the non-answer, by the rebuttal. He's got his eye on the prize. It's only a matter of getting there, now, before the ground drops out from under his feet while he's not looking.
]

No, I don't think I do. You need to work on not outsmarting yourself.

You're making yourself a pawn, not anyone else. No one else can. Not you, of all people.

[The Marquis is clever and resourceful and uncompromising for the right cause. Dean has seen it all, maybe more than he was intended to, definitely more than almost anyone gives him credit for, and he knows this much: whatever it is that drives the Marquis to mad restlessness, he let it in, and he's the only one that can chase it back out again. He has only to figure out how to trick it into becoming something smaller.]
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[personal profile] surfaceshine 2013-08-09 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
[Dean doesn't always know exactly what it is he's looking at, but he hasn't always had to in order to be sure of it anyway; be sure that it'll show itself eventually, be sure that it's what he thinks it is, be sure that he can still depend on it for better or for worse. He can bide his time, wait to be as sure of the shape of it as he is the existence of it.

Dean sees the consideration and he waits, uncharacteristically patient, and snorts when he hears the lie that comes out next. It's almost an insult, and the look he gives the Marquis says as much as plainly as any words.

The hunter is not the type to do things without warning. The problem is, the warning never makes a difference.
]

Then what is this conversation? Why are you here? [The Barge. An inmate.

Why doesn't he feel safe enough in his own body and his own mind to get some sleep.
]
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[personal profile] surfaceshine 2013-08-14 11:50 am (UTC)(link)
[Dean dismisses the last part as posturing, or maybe testing an idea to see if it flies as well outside in the air as it does inside one's head. He remembers speaking with de Carabas about London Below, and the sharp, paper-cut wounds it left in both of them: tiny, painful, easily healed. He doesn't forget as much as he pretends to.

There's too much here that Dean doesn't know, and he's aware of that. It doesn't always stop him from pressing forward anyway but now he's almost cautious, taking a step only when he's certain of it. He only has the story the Marquis has told him, and it is a story of creation - it's a story about the past.

The distant past. The Marquis has been the Marquis too long for it to be fresh, and even Dean knows that. So he works with what he's been told, and what he hasn't been.

The hunter asks again:
] What is this conversation?
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[personal profile] surfaceshine 2013-08-20 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
I think you miss home.

[Dean doesn't even have to think about it, and he doesn't hesitate to answer, either. He could be even more specific, he thinks, but not yet. Dean hasn't had a home for a long time now, not one that most recognize as such, but he recognizes the look, recognizes the gritted teeth of missing someone as well and being unwilling to admit it. The Marquis, Dean thinks not for the first time, wants people to think he's a loner, but he's not. All of his power, which he undoubtedly loves, resides in the manipulation of people; it should make Dean wary of him at the least, disgust him at the worst. But he's never really minded the Marquis, not like he should for that sort of motivation.

And besides, they've talked about it. In feints and bluffs and through the teeth of a liar's smile, and the Marquis has given him more than enough hints. The conversation outside Dean's door the day he left, the uncontrolled, last ditch punch Dean hadn't expected until it happened, hadn't known what it meant at the time. Not even, really, the extent of it until he was handed a few more pieces. It might have been lazy on his part, but while Dean's methods are clever, he's no pick pocket in this regard. He couldn't have stolen these tidbits without losing his hand in the process.

And then there's that other thing, which he has also known for quite some time, though he only just now realizes it.
]

You want someone else to know.

And you're testing me. Again.
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[personal profile] surfaceshine 2013-08-26 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
[Dean pauses to consider this. It's not a state that he is comfortable in, it doesn't sit well on him, being stationary and thoughtful. He's a creature of instinct and reaction, of movement and sound and violence. Other people think. Dean does.

The hunter hedges, quirking a small, cool smirk and cracking a self-deprecating joke of the variety he's used to build the person most others are familiar with and fooled by.
] Damn. I hope it's open note, and even then, I'm the worst test taker in history. All nerves.

[But it's just hedging. He's sifting through the information, wishing - not for the first or last time - that Sam was here with his giant brain and his freakish memory for random details no one cares about, though Dean does pretty well for himself in this regard. The hunter slowly sits back, rolling the pencil between his fingers, predator's gaze steady above the polished, crooked smile.]

So. You're the fairytale boy, is what you want me to believe. Created out of the imaginations of others at your direction.

The ultimate trick: make someone who existed disappear, and someone who never existed become real. That it?

[That is not, he knows, it. But the Marquis isn't the only one always testing.]
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[personal profile] surfaceshine 2013-09-04 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh good. Now Dad won't be pissed at me for bringing home an F.

[But there's genuine satisfaction in it, though he doesn't take an obscene amount of pride in his ability to reason like Sam would, or the Marquis. He still respects a job well done and takes pleasure in being the one to do it, whatever it is; and he's proud of his friend, though the Marquis won't thank him for that, doesn't need it. It's still true.

Dean's gaze follow the cast of the Marquis' black eyes, ticking sideways, ticking back in perfect unison. He raises an eyebrow and, lazily wagging the pencil up and down in his hand until it appears to the trickable eye to be made of rubber, snorts.
]

Sure it is. Not mine, specifically, but someone's.

If there were no one but you to convince, you could be whatever you want. Anyone could. I could say I'm a rockstar and all I'd have to do is convince myself and it's true.

That's the trick. Belief. Only other people can make something true of ourselves that isn't.

[Normally, this would be well outside of Dean's domain, too close to philosophical when he is anything but. The trouble is he's seen it in himself. He knows he's not a good, or a strong, or a bright person. But others believe it of him, and so sometimes, he can be more than he is.]
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[personal profile] surfaceshine 2013-09-20 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
Mm.

[And this is where they differ; this is the part of the Marquis that makes Dean wary, as he has no doubt was the intent. Every people needs a trickster and every people needs a guardian, and the Marquis is one and Dean is the other, and while they may not always be exactly at odds they are decidedly never on the same side. Dean knows that. He's safe as long as he doesn't forget that.

He wags the pencil back and forth a couple more times, then drops it into his lap. The hunter sits forward with casual, lazy ease until he's bracing his elbows on his knees, intent on the communicator sitting square on his desk, lips curved but not smiling, eyes bright but not amused.
]

But is it a funny one?
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[personal profile] surfaceshine 2013-09-28 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
[This, too, is the difference: the Marquis would be the last one standing at the end of the world, and consider himself the victor. Dean found himself the last one standing of his family and refused to accept it as reality. That isn't security for Dean. Carrying on another day at all costs is not safety. His eyes search the Marquis's through the smokescreen of the network, two predators caught on opposite sides of a viewing glass.]

I certainly don't agree. But then, I know the story isn't over.
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[personal profile] surfaceshine 2013-10-02 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
[Dean doesn't move for several seconds, watching, clever eyes missing nothing. He never does, when he's paying attention, and the Marquis has it all for now. At last Dean smiles, satisfied with whatever he's seen, and sits back. A few moments later he's leaning back, kicking his boots up onto the corner beside the communicator, relaxing bonelessly into his chair.

The smile spreads to a grin, a low chuckle.
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No. No they don't. But that's the point too, isn't it?

Are we done with this metaphor yet?
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[personal profile] surfaceshine 2013-10-16 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
[Dean will always argue. It's how he shows affection, how he makes his stand, and it's one of the first things anyone notices about him. It masks how quickly he comes to care about people, how willing he is to intervene on their behalf, even with themselves.

It lets him drive away when it's over. Now he rolls his eyes at his friend - his
friend - and taps the communicator with his foot in lieu of slapping the man's shoulder or elbowing his side.]

You eaten lunch yet?
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[personal profile] surfaceshine 2013-10-23 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
[It's okay. Dean doesn't need affection and he is virtually impossible to intrude upon. He rolls with whatever gets thrown his way and always has. He purses his lips outward, considering while pulling the face, then nods as he puts his foot back down so he can lean forward again.]

I always am. [So really, whenever. He reaches to pick up the communicator, rolling his eyes.]

Your face is an allegory. [Which would be a childish comeback, except the quick flash of teeth that punctuates it.]

Enjoy your castle.